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Wednesday 12 November 2014
@michaelbkiefer
Defense calls Dr. Licia (SP) Fonseca, a clinical psychologist, who will testify as to “dynamics” of relationship between Alexander and Arias. Fonseca will talk about unconventional sexual interests or improprieties, including pedophilia.
@monicalindstrom
This doctor says she reviewed voluminous amounts of info, TMs, emails/testimony/victim statements/TAs presentations etc.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says it was a relationship of love, and “it was very much of lust.”
@NancyGraceHLN
Fonseca says the relationship between Travis & #JodiArias was one of love, lust & forbidden love
@michaelbkiefer
Up on the screen is an email in which Alexander takes the Hugheses to task for telling #JodiArias he was a jerk to women.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca describes Alexander’s role as a Mormon. She acknowledges that Alexander baptized #JodiArias. Martinez objects to photo of same.
@michaelbkiefer
The photo is admitted and published. #Jodiarias and Alexander are wearing white vestments for the baptism.
@william_pitts
Fonseca says #TravisAlexander was a dedicated Mormon but struggled with “sexual aspect of himself.”
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca describes Alexander’s dedication to LDS, “but he also struggled with being human.”
@monicalindstrom
#JodiArias had a thirst for knowledge in the spiritual realm, religions, belief systems and that drew her to TA, says the Dr.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca said #JodiArias had a “spiritual interest,” which she thinks drew her to Alexander
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks Fonseca about #JodiArias relationship with Daryl Brewer. Stable relationship despite 20-year age difference, she says.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert explains Daryll Brewer didn’t want to marry Jodi
@michaelbkiefer
Brewer found #JodiArias responsible and frugal, Fonseca said. Next question about rendezvous at Hughes house between Alexander and Arias
@michaelbkiefer
At rendezvous, Alexander made dramatic entry and plopped hundred-dollar bills from sales on a table. “sexual behavior” afterward.
@michaelbkiefer
Before the baptism, “a few intimate encounters that involved oral and anal sex.”
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi displays a photo of an erect penis she identifies as Alexander’s, sent via phone to #JodiArias. Now another photo of same.
@monicalindstrom
#Nurmi showing the pic of TA’s penis alongside the picture of them at the baptism dressed in white, interesting symbolism
@monicalindstrom
TA was a master in deception and the two pics together capture the struggle TA had w/sex and his religion (penis pic/baptism pic)
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks Fonseca if sending those photos is inappropriate to LDS church. She says it is distasteful but captures struggle.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca calls Alexander a “master of deception” who shocked his family when they learned of proclivities
@michaelbkiefer
Back to Alexander’s email to the Hugheses. Martinez objects to her reading subject line, which says, “You crossed the line.”
@monicalindstrom
Are you really a friend if you tell people that the person is a jerk, abusive to women, etc?
Previous report on these emails: archive.azcentral.com/community/mesa… #JodiaArias
@jeffgoldesq
Travis Hughes email up again. Quoted to show Travis admits being abusive
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says Chris Hughes hired Alexander for stamina and energy and work ethic.
@william_pitts
Fonseca calls #TravisAlexander Jekyll and Hyde when it came to women.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #TravisAlexander is Jekyll, “T-Dog” (described in emails) is Hyde.#JodiaArias
@michaelbkiefer
In email Alexander tells Hugheses that they kept calling #JodiArias”Deanna,” who was an earlier girlfriend.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert details relationship of Travis and Deanna Reed
@william_pitts
Fonseca says Hughes’s wanted t keep #JodiaArias from becoming another “Deanna” — #TravisAlexander ‘s ex gf who waited for him and marriage.
@michaelbkiefer
#JodiArias wanted to marry and have children, Fonseca said.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. Fonseca talking about emails from T.A.’s friends-Hughes-referring to TA as “mean to girls”& warning #JodiaArias from being TA’s “victim”
@monicalindstrom
TA tells the Hughes that “I adore Jodi”
@william_pitts
Fonseca says there’s lots of evidence that #JodiaArias loved#TravisAlexander
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca notes point of email in which Alexander writes that he adores#JodiArias. And she notes that Hugheses recognize that she loved him.
@monicalindstrom
TA described himself as being rough around the edges
@michaelbkiefer
Alexander on #JodiArias: “how lucky I would be to have her in my life forever.”
@monicalindstrom
TA says re #jodiArias: intrigued, interested, to caring about her, realizing how lucky i would be to have her part of my life forever.
@william_pitts
Fonseca talking about #TravisAlexander ‘s worries…financial, marriage, etc.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi has Fonseca read from the email: Alexander talks about fixing himself, about pressure and fear of losing
@william_pitts
Nurmi tryng to show a pattern of #TravisAlexander lying about sex with multiple women to keep his standing in the LDS Church
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert says Deanna lied about sex too
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias and Travis had lots of sex including anal sex. But not supposed too under Mormon teachings
@michaelbkiefer
Alexander to Hughes: “then you tell Jodi that I am mean and abusive and a jerk.”
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias this must be such a torture for Alexanders..I think the AZ double shot at DP is wrong. This whole additional retrial is wrong
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias defense now makes sure to go over Travis calling Jodi a “slut” and “three hole wonder,”
@michaelbkiefer
“I am trying desperately to overcome my problems so that I don’t lose something great like I have done before.” Alexander on #JodiArias
@michaelbkiefer
Now we talk about Sky Hughes’ email response to Travis Alexander.
@william_pitts
Fonseca talking about #TravisAlexander removing pics of #JodiArias from facebook so no one would know about them.
@william_pitts
Nurmi: “So #JodiArias is in love with someone who’s in love with someone else?” Fonseca: “Right”
@michaelbkiefer
The email describes the secrecy of Alexander’s relationship with#JodiArias, removing photos from My Space, only calling her after 1 a.m.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca reads “skank” on the email as “shank,” then says English is her second language.
@william_pitts
Now questioning about #TravisAlexander calling #JodiArias a skank.
@michaelbkiefer
Sky Hughes writes that Alexander wants to control #JodiArias without giving any commitment.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi: “Her love for him is powerful.” Fonseca: “Oh yes.”
@william_pitts
“he kisses her in the dark.” — Fonseca Says it shows “Mr. Hyde”. He can’t show affection in public.
@michaelbkiefer
Sky Hughes email: “He kisses her in the dark, when no one is around. He messes around.” Lunch break.
@michaelbkiefer
Dr. Lucia Fonseca is petite, an older woman with short curly gray hair and a very serious but calm demeanor
@william_pitts
This trial is so big the homeless outside court are telling me #JodiArias is innocent.
@michaelbkiefer
We are back from lunch in the #JodiArias trial. Dr. Lucia Fonseca returns to the stand.
@michaelbkiefer
And Nurmi takes Fonseca back to the last paragraph of the Sky Hughes email, where she describes Alexander carrying on in secret with Arias.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias defense is about power. Travis having power over Jodi. More more sophisticated than last time blunt DV mistake
@monicalindstrom
I find this email from Sky Hughes to TA interesting and is similar to what#JodiArias testified to about the relationship with TA
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks what it says about dynamic of the relationship w #JodiArias. Fonseca says it is not open. Alexander is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
@michaelbkiefer
Or Travis Alexander, the spiritual Mormon elder, vs. the sexually conflicted T-Dog. #JodiArias
@monicalindstrom
“This is Travis Alexander aka T-Dog” the doc says as she explains the baptism photo
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias Skye Hughes telling Jodi to move on … a push away pull back relationship where Travis held the power and knew it.
@monicalindstrom
So far the Dr has not “bashed” TA, she has stated he was in conflict and was deeply committed to his church
@william_pitts
Martinez is objecting to a copy of an email. He’s objecting to the highlights put on there. Nurmi, I swear, objected to the objection.
@william_pitts
Sidebar time to discuss objection and objection to objection.
@william_pitts
Hughes email to #TravisAlexander : “you have not committed to one woman yet you have had dozens of women.”
@william_pitts
“not being critical but you are the biggest flirt this side of the mississippi. you said it yourself, the T-Dog gets chicks.”
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi publishes Chris Hughes’ response to Travis Alexander’s “You crossed the line” email. He takes Alexander to task for not committing
@michaelbkiefer
“You are the biggest flirt this side of the Mississippi.” Chris Hughes is upset that Alexander “gets into” girls’ hearts and then leaves
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca said Alexander was intimate only in the sexual sense with various women.
@monicalindstrom
TA was the biggest flirt and no one compares to him according to C. Hughes
@PitchforksPosts
Former judge David Derickson says denying #JodiArias ability to present witnesses who won’t show up if press there is denial of due process
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca thinks Alexander was surprised that he connected with #JodiAriason a level he hadn’t reached with other women.
@mikewatkiss3tv
“I really believe she was your next victim”-TA’s friend C. Hughes says to Travis about #JodiArias
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert says loves makes people do crazy things.. Nurmi repeats it..
@monicalindstrom
CH going back and forth between “Travis” and “T-dogg” in the email and Dr commenting on that and explaining its alter ego thing
@PitchforksPosts
#TravisAlexander on himself: “The T-Dog gets chicks” Telling remark demonstrating attitude to women as impersonal trophies, boastfulness
@william_pitts
Fonseca says the way Travis’s actions are described by Hughes sounds “abusive”
@michaelbkiefer
The expert interprets Hughes saying “I’ve seen a lot of gals get gutted in your wake” as meaning Alexander was abusive.
@michaelbkiefer
“I think what you term ‘rough around the edges,’ Sky and I would call ‘abusive.'” Hughes rips Alexander for being secret with true feelings.
@michaelbkiefer
Chris Hughes says #JodiArias will end up “In love, but alone,” just like Deanna.
@william_pitts
“she does like you so much and does not want to end up liking you for years in vain.”
@jeffgoldesq
“I felt so sorry for Jodi feeling she was about to be gutted” Chris Hughes
@michaelbkiefer
Expert: “Travis was loved by many people.” But they didn’t know his other side. “This is why I said he was a master of deception.”
@monicalindstrom
It seems everything Dr. Fonseca is saying is common sense, my minor was Psych but I don’t think that is why it seems so basic
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says being with someone who wants to keep it secret affects self-esteem.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert says to “Mr Alexander” credit he acknowledges he had issues.
@jeffgoldesq
“that’s not you that’s the TDogg” the Hyde, abusive, womanizer in Travis says Sky Hughes in email
@william_pitts
“you weren’t beating her physically but you were emotionally” — Hughes email
@jeffgoldesq
Sky Hughes says making out with girls with no meaning ends with 25yolds
@michaelbkiefer
“It wasn’t a perfect love, so why are we here?” L.C. Miccio-Fonseca on#JodiArias and Travis Alexander. #understatement
@monicalindstrom
In email string the Hughes r also referring to a history that existed prior to#JodiArias entering TA’s life
@william_pitts
“Hughes wants #TravisAlexander to understand #JodiArias was in pain and he caused that pain” — Fonseca
@monicalindstrom
SH to TA: Travis…u r a heart predator-u take great joy n making women fall 4the T-dogg-u laugh about what u can get away with
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says animosity would be building up in #JodiArias. Nurmi calls it “a boulder rolling down a hill.”
@william_pitts
“it would scare me to death if my sister liked you. In fact i wouldn’t allow it.” — Hughes email #JodiArias
@michaelbkiefer
Hughes to Alexander: “You are a heart predator…it worry me to death if my little sister liked you.”
@michaelbkiefer
Hughes to Alexander: “Women are fragile and you shattered a lot of them.”
@michaelbkiefer
Hughes tells Alexander that #JodiArias fulfills the physical part of him that Deanna does not.
@michaelbkiefer
Over and over: “T-dog pulls for chicks.”
@michaelbkiefer
Deanna Reid is also close to Alexander but “in the dark.” Alexander getting his needs met in different places.
@michaelbkiefer
“It’s clear that Ms. Arias wanted more than Travis was giving…That was a conflict for him.” Miccio-Fonseca
@michaelbkiefer
Sky Hughes says in email that Alexander was mean to #JodiArias in not acknowledging her in public. “You are being a jerk.”
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca muses on Sky Hughes email, “It makes you wonder, if this was better, what was it before?”
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi building case that Alexander only used #JodiArias for sex, barely said to hello to her in front of others. Martinez asks for sidebar.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias defense to DP seems to be that Travis treated Jodi as his private sex slave who he keep on a chain until one day she snapped.
@jodiarias_gb
@jeffgoldesq Getting closer : but she snapped because she thought she was going to die.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #JodiArias loves her parents even though they were abusive to her.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi references a slap across the face, then calls it a day. Back tomorrow at 9:30.
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias over for day. Jodi seems very happy. Light hearted smiles with Willmott and DeLaRosa.
Thursday 13 November 2014
@michaelbkiefer
The jury enters. Stephens calls Dr. Fonseca back to the stand. Nurmi steps up.
@jeffgoldesq
Travis calls himself a bit of a sociopath. Finds what he did to Deanna unforgivable
@michaelbkiefer
In this episode, Alexander laments the 7 years of ex-girlfriend Deanna’s life which he feels he wasted by not treating her well
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias “has a heart and feelings” says Travis
@michaelbkiefer
Now Fonseca reads what Alexander wrote about #JodiArias; whoever gets her will “win the wife lottery.”
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias Travis still talking about Deanna. Then Jodi “is amazing” someone “will win the wife lottery”
@jeffgoldesq
Travis says he doesn’t deserve to “have his cake and eating it too” with Jodi
@william_pitts
“i am not the best guy in the world, I am a D-head with some nice qualities” — #TravisAlexander’s email
@SKrafftFox10
I’m struck by the length and emotion of Travis’ confessional emails being read in court by defense witness.
@jodiarias_gb
Travis- “I have to separate myself from Deanna to give more to #jodiariasbut I haven’t been able to do that”
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks if this was a confession. “Objection: leading.” “Overruled.” Fonseca says it is a self admission.
@william_pitts
Fonseca says she takes from the email that #TravisAlexander knows he’s a sociopath but thinks #JodiArias will be fine
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert hears no sorrow about Jodi but does about Deanna
@jeffgoldesq
Wow still in denial. #JodiArias shakes her head ever so slightly as expert testifies to effect that Travis loved Deanna not really Jodi
@maryellenabc15
Nurmi points out that #TravisAlexander is admitting love for Deanna Reid while he is dating #JodiArias
@william_pitts
“it would be foolish to focus on what #JodiArias said because she changed the story so much.” — Fonseca
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says she does not base her opinion solely on what #JodiArias told her, because she changed her story.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Jurors hearing lots of self deprecating comments from TA-referring to#JodiArias-TA: “she will not be another victim of ‘T-Dogg'”
@monicalindstrom
Last time JM crossed experts on them using a “liars” words 4 their opinions, this time KN pointing out expert using Hughes word
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi is asking Fonseca about truthfulness to buttress against the coming cross examination about #JodiArias being a liar. Many objections.
@michaelbkiefer
And a subsequent long sidebar at Nurmi’s request. Stephens tells Fonseca to stop talking when there is an objection.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Witness describes TA “he was abusive-he was mean” in treatment of women-email TA once talked about “gutting women
@monicalindstrom
TA states he was mocked about his appearance in school, that is probably why he always dressed so nice
@monicalindstrom
DrF reading words written by TA about terrible things that happened to him during his childhood
@william_pitts
Nurmi having Fonseca read writing from #TravisAlexander about his childhood. “I ran away and never came back.
@monicalindstrom
It still boggles my mind how parents can treat their little children so horribly, supposed to protect and love
@maryellenabc15: #TravisAlexander remembers father taking ax to mother’s belongings .mother unloading a revolver on his dad car.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: “Mr. Alexander really picked himself up by his bootstraps and became successful”
@jeffgoldesq
#travisalexander recalling verbal abuse by mother to himself and sisters. Violence talk. Older female juror wipes eye.
@william_pitts
This is what Nurmi’s referrin to: Blog post by #TravisAlexander travisalexander.blogspot.com/2008/05/introd…
@monicalindstrom
DrF explains that you can heal from abuse as a children but you will carrying the scars with you throughout life.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Now hearing writings of TA-talking about horrible childhood-mom taking “revolver” to dad’s car-dad taking “ax” to mom’s stuff
@monicalindstrom
When 1 has to live w/abuse there is a certain level of acceptance of abuse, i.e. they only broke my arm this time so its “ok”
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #TravisAlexander believes he’s not abusive because he’s not as bad as his mother.
@SKrafftFox10
#JodiArias defense expert describes Travis’ nightmarish upbringing, says he came a long way but had emotional scars.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: there is a theme of lack of commitment though he has come a long way, its scary for him to be intimate
@william_pitts
for anyone who’s curious…here’s #JodiArias’s blog from about the same time. jodiarias.blogspot.com
@mikewatkiss3tv
Clinical psychologist telling jurors TA’s horrific upbringing made him desensitized to abuse
@william_pitts
Fonseca talking about #JodiArias first relationship, Bobby Juarez, in high school. Says he was abusive
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias sex expert now guided to Jodi’s life. Bobby Juarez BF abusive at 17. HS drop out. Left home 16. Fought with dad who slapped her.
@monicalindstrom
With this testimony it is clear that both TA & #JodiArias suffered abuse during their lives
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #JodiArias was hit with a wooden spoon by her mother and father.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca tells jury that #JodiArias first boyfriend when she was 17 was abusive to her. She moved out of family house because of abuse there
@michaelbkiefer
“Where does a child learn about love? In the home.” Dr. L.C. Miccio-Fonseca on #JodiArias From a bad home, “There is a tolerance for abuse.”
@monicalindstrom
DrF: people bond over shared experiences, perhaps TA & #JodiAriasbonded over their negative childhood experiences
@monicalindstrom
KN shows DrF pic of TA and #jodiArias of the two of them in front of the hot air balloons
@monicalindstrom
DrF seems to be getting a bit frustrated when JM objects during her answers, but she is remaining calm
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi is showing selfies of Alexander and #JodiArias on vacations and Martinez objects when he gives locations in questions to Fonseca.
@michaelbkiefer
A photo of Alexander and #JodiArias with friends Dan and Desiree Freedman on another vacation. Here come their observations. break time.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Desiree Freeman (on tape) telling jurors about trip she & her brother went on to Grand Canyon w/TA
@mikewatkiss3tv
On tape D. Freeman tells jury TA presented himself as a virgin to his Mormon friends while having hidden relationship w/#jodiarias
@jeffgoldesq
Desiree – these were overnight trips. #TravisAlexanderand #JodiArias had argument. In car. Jodi wanted to stop take pics”
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #TravisAlexander was trying hard to be a good Mormon.
@michaelbkiefer
Freeman had no idea Alexander was “not living up to the values of the church.”
@william_pitts
#JodiArias “became a sister in our family.” — Freeman
@michaelbkiefer
Freeman called Arias to tell her that Alexander was dead. “She was silent for a moment.” Video testimony from first #JodiArias trial.
@william_pitts
video ends, Nurmi’s back up to talk to Fonseca
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca notes that Freeman reinforced the notion of public v private Travis Alexander when #JodiArias is present
@michaelbkiefer
Now Fonseca is reading an angry email from Lisa Andrews about Alexander going too far with her. She felt “used and dirty.”
@william_pitts
btw this email’s from Lisa Andrews to #TravisAlexander . basically a breakup email
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias expert now calling Travis a cheater because he was dating Jodi and Lisa.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “you don’t like knowing someone’s cheating on you, it doesn’t feel good.”
@michaelbkiefer
“You did not tell me Jodi would be going on this little trip with you.” Lisa Andrews to Travis Alexander. Ouch. This sets the tone of email
@william_pitts
Lisa Andrews writing about #TravisAlexander not approving of her career choices. #JodiArias
@michaelbkiefer
Lisa Andrews, as read by Fonseca, criticizing Alexander’s behavior–talking on phone too much, not turning down TV, too much making out
@michaelbkiefer
“I’m trying to explain, not to excuse, the relationship.” Fonseca on Travis Alexander.
@jeffgoldesq
Lisa is something Travis wants to marry but he wants to grab her butt and she don’t like premarital buttock holding
@michaelbkiefer
The Lisa Andrews email: “I asked you several times not to grab my butt, but you persisted… You’ll get your turn one day.”
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca repeats the butt-grab line: “What is it about that he’s not getting?”
@william_pitts
and that’s a wrap. Back Monday 930am.
Monday 17 November 2014
@michaelbkiefer
Dr. Micio Fonseca, the defense psychologist has retaken the stand and we are waiting for the jury.
@michaelbkiefer
Dr. Fonseca reads a 2007 letter from ex-Travis girlfriend Lisa Andrews telling him he lied to her. She asks him not to respond.
@chriswnews
Dr Fonseca: Ms Andrews writes she was cheated on & lied to & wants no more involvement w/ #TravisAlexander
@chriswnews
Now Dr Fonseca looks @ Lisa Andrews letter to #TravisAlexander 2 months later saying she loved him
@michaelbkiefer
In this email from Lisa Andrews , the subject line is “I love you,” and she talks about marriage. Fonseca says this TA’s infectious nature.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says that Lisa Andrews is another person having difficulty staying away from Alexander.
@michaelbkiefer
“Thank you for being strong.” She says she probably would have let him do anything he wanted to her.
@michaelbkiefer
“Not too dissimilar to Ms. Arias,” Fonseca says. Juan Martinez objects. Fonseca says the difference is #JodiArias had no boundaries.
@chriswnews
#JodiArias witness compares Ms Andrews spiritual struggles w/ that of#JodiArias claiming writings show Andrews was accepting of blame(cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont) Dr Fonseca suggests #TravisAlexander persuasive personality was an issue that impacted both #JodiArias & Ms Andrews
@michaelbkiefer
BTW, I don’t endorse the “Jodi Arias is Innocent” site, which is putting its logo on my work for azcentral and 12News, without authorization
@monicalindstrom
Not having boundaries is okay if both consenting adults are in agreement, trouble is that feelings are there too
@monicalindstrom
Other than the end result, the only thing that made this r’ship taboo was the religious aspect
@chriswnews
Dr Fonseca talks of #TravisAlexander “mastery of deception” pretends to B “good Mormon” but secretly communicates w/ other women.
@michaelbkiefer
People outside of LDS can’t relate to the concept of a 30-year-old virgin, which was Alexander’s public persona.
@SKrafftFox10
Travis Alexander was a “master of deception” seeking oral sex from variety of women besides #JodiArias, says defense’s expert
@LiseLasalle
@jeffgoldesq She explained whole case: Andrews came back to Travis but stopped herself because she had healthy boundaries. Arias had none
@mikewatkiss3tv
Sex Doc: T.A. had a “mastery of depeption”-took “left turn off main hwy” w/ “activities unacceptable to Mormon Church”
@NancyGraceHLN
Dr. Fonseca says she interviewed #JodiArias on two separate occasions, accumulating to less than 8 hours.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca did not interview Chris and Sky Hughes. She looked at interrogation tape Flores made with them. They did not mention “gutting women”
@chriswnews
RE Chris & Sky Hughes: Dr Fonseca describes seeing interrogation vid w/ Det Flores. “Edification” of #TravisAlexander(cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont)Fonseca: Hughes never mentioned feelings expressed in emails to#TracisAlexander. Felt most accurate info was in emails to #JodiArias
@chriswnews
RE: #TravisAlexander family: Fonseca not allowed to interview them due to court rules. #JodiArias
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca gets it out. Jan 2008, #JodiArias claimed she caught Alexander masturbating to a photo of a young boy and then she vomited
@michaelbkiefer
Next day, Fonseca said, Alexander contacted #JodiArias and told her he was a victim of abuse, sex w women makes him normal. Also asked for $
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asked why #JodiArias didn’t just leave and keep going after the discovery
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says there was other evidence Alexander was interested in persons under the age of 18. What now?
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca brings up the line from the phone sex recording about the orgasm of a 12-year-old girl. “Corking the pot of a 12-yr-old.”
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca talks more about the phone sex tape in which he describes porn shots he wants to photogaph with #JodiArias, using porn lingo.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks if the naked photo of #JodiArias in pig-tailed and shaved also suggests an interest in young people.
@michaelbkiefer
“I have not used the word pedophile,” Fonseca says.
@chriswnews
Dr Fonseca insists she is not using the word “#pedophile”. Not diagnosing or suggesting treatment.
@michaelbkiefer
Now an IM from a woman named Julie who tells him another girl is too young and he answers, “No such thing.”
@michaelbkiefer
Alexander was ten or 11 years older than Lisa Andrews, who Fonseca says was 18 or 19.
@chriswnews
Dr Fonseca reads texts between #TravisAlexander & Julie Haslem. He asks her to find him a wife. (Cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont) Haslem suggests a “Sara is way cute, but a little young”.#TravisAlexander responds “no such thing”.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi shows April 2007 email from someone named Damien Ashdown that says “Stop emailing my 9-year old daughter.”
@michaelbkiefer
“It would be foolish to ignore these things that keep popping up,” Fonseca says
@CBS5AZ
Fonseca says that during phone sex Alexander told Arias she sounded like a 12-year old girl – during orgasm
@SKrafftFox10
Now expert describes Travis’ relationship w/#Jodiarias as linked 2his alleged sexual interest in children.
@chriswnews
#JodiArias atty enters into evidence an email to #TravisAlexander from April 2007. Title: ” Quit emailing my 9 year old daughter”(cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont 1) #JodiArias atty Nurmi & Fonseca exchange that they don’t know the context of that email(cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont2) But Fonseca says while its unpleasant to hear & unpleasant to testify to would be foolish for her to ignore
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F explains there are no borders with TA when it comes to age of a female.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says friends told Alexander to seek counseling, but he did not.
@chriswnews
Fonseca: #TravisAlexander was a man in spiritual crisis. Friends wanted him to visit with the Bishop.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Sex Doc: “as offensive as it is to family-it would be foolish for me to ignore” telling jury of T.A.’s “sexual proclivities”
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi anticipates Martinez question by asking Fonseca how she can describe Alexander without interviewing him. Evaluating available material
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F explains that she can say these things about TA because of the interviews from friends, text messages, sex tapes etc
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says Alexander lost his “temple recommend,” banning him from LDS temple in Jan 2008. “That’s major in this community.”
@mikewatkiss3tv
“He had his own Hell he was going through” Sex Doc tells of T.A.-say T.A. lost his “Temple Recommend”
@michaelbkiefer
Now Fonseca brings up the allegation that Alexander slammed #JodiAriasto the ground. She did not find that he abused other women
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi jumps back to the event where TA was pleasuring himself to photos of younger boys. Dr explains the next day he got abusive
@jeffgoldesq
@SKrafftFox10: Sending photo of penis at same time of baptism created toxic relationship between #jodiArias and Travis, says defense expert.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi: The relationship was unhealthy, wasn’t it?
@michaelbkiefer
Toxicity, a snowball picking up steam. The mixture of religion and sex in the Alexander #JodiArias relationship set it rolling.
@mikewatkiss3tv
“His sexual needs & his spiritual needs were both competing”- at day he was good Mormon man-at night he was “T-Dogg”
@chriswnews
#JodiArias atty Nurmi & Dr Fonseca working the toxic buildup of relationship between #TravisAlexander & #Arias.
@chriswnews
#JodiArias atty Nurmi & Fonseca discuss conflict of religion & sex. Nurmi talks of snowball or bolder rolling out of control
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez objecting frequently at this point
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca: “Death is in the background for both.” #JodiArias and Alexander both bring up suicide in correspondence
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca: Alexander frantically trying to find a wife acceptable to LDS community.
@chriswnews
Fonseca RE #TravisAlexander: He is desperately trying to find a woman he can call his wife to meet the standards of his community (cont)
@chriswnews
(Cont1) Fonseca means Mormon community. Says struggle was stressful.#TravisAlexander wrote of suicide. She adds so did #JodiArias
@chriswnews
Several #JodiArias jurors have been writing throughout the day. At least 1 question in the basket. #TravisAlexander
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says #JodiArias trying to distance herself from Alexander but they remained in contact.
@SKrafftFox10
“The bond they had was sexuality”: #jodiarias defense expert speaking of Jodi-Travis relationship
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca brings up the new romantic interest #JodiArias had in Ryan Burns in months before murder.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says that Alexander and #JodiArias were engaging in the same sex behavior as many couples. Nothing unlawful. Lunch break.
@michaelbkiefer
Back in #JodiArias trial. Meanwhile, Juan Martinez filed a motion for sanctions saying defense returned a mirror image of the wrong computer
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez says defense damaged TA’s computer. Now says there WAS porn on the computer but it can’t be accessed because of anti virus program.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca is now talking about the “cream pie” mentioned in phone-sex tape and other sex acts Alexander wanted to film with #JodiArias.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca now reading texts between Alexander and #JodiArias about spirituality.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca brings up the sexy French maid outfit #JodiArias was supposed to wear while cleaning his house. Theme is “dehumanizing” behavior.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F. says in her opinion #jodiarias and TA have an awareness for spirituality but JA too is struggling and wants to be a good Mormon
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F and Nurmi continue to go through convo between #jodiarias and TA. Text shows them arguing about the things they’ve done for each other
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says sexuality and spirituality are very important for TA.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi gets Fonseca to say that Alexander and #JodiArias connected so well sexually that they could not fully separate from each other
@jodiarias_gb
Travis says he doesn’t think he will ever be sexually satisfied after
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says TA has high energy. He’s texting multiple women at once.
@CarolynSungCNN
TA writes to #jodiarias “You are in my book the closest thing to perfection i have encountered in so many facets.”
@michaelbkiefer
In texts, #JodiArias says Alexander is “closest thing to perfection” she had encountered, “but you do stuff that just kills everything.”
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says TA is giving and taking away from #jodiarias
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F confirms: even though #jodiarias and TA are thousands of miles away, they’re still in toxic waters together.
@jodiarias_gb
She is paranoid that this evil person you have depicted will someday surface. No matter what I say or do she will always have in the back of her mind this person that lurks in the shadows.” – Travis to Hughes, January 2007
@mikewatkiss3tv
“It’s a wicked game you play” TA to #jodiarias
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: TA was a master at deception… “he wouldn’t buy KY, because he wouldn’t want anyone to know, see, sent #jodiarias instead.”
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: TA really struggled internally. Family didn’t know, “close” friends didn’t know.
@michaelbkiefer
May 2008, and in the texts, #JodiArias is talking about feeling “icky” and being in a bad place.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca: “Mr. Alexander’s intimacy is from the waist down.” Other transactions with women are over phone or text, etc.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca: “Not flowers, not a nice dinner, only sex.”
@michaelbkiefer
When Nurmi asks if shaving public hair denotes creating younger appearance, Martinez demands yes/no answer. Fonseca cannot answer that way.
@michaelbkiefer
After a long sidebar, Judge Stephens calls the afternoon break.
@michaelbkiefer
Back from the break, right to a sidebar. Now we have an emergency situation and cannot have trial until Thursday. Jury excused
@courtpio
Trial in the State v. #JodiArias will resume on Thursday 11/20 at 9:30 am. Evidentiary Hearing set for Friday 11/21 at 10:30 am.
Thursday 20 November 2014
@CarolynSungCNN
#jodiarias mom and aunt just sat down, along w/ a supporter. Martinez just entered the courtroom as well.
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi admits exhibit 741. It’s a google chat between #jodiarias and TA that took place May, 2008.
@william_pitts
email: #TravisAlexander says #JodiArias joke made her look like a “cheap whore”
@monicalindstrom
This is an imessage convo btw TA & #JodiArias at 2:30am and they clearly are not happy with each other
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F reiterates to jury, “I”m not here to diagnose or treat, I’m here as a consultant.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: TA has steam in this convo and #JodiArias is trying to placate him and find peace
@monicalindstrom
DrF: When #JodiArias takes it away from sex “TA brings the convo back to sex, TA doesn’t see her outside the bedroom”
@mikewatkiss3tv
Nurmi introduces email T.A sent to #jodiarais-T.A. calls her a “freakin’ whore”-expert calls it “more aggressive, more abusive
@monicalindstrom
TA says to #JodiArias “I have never dealt with a more solid form of evil” while accusing her of lying and flirting
@william_pitts
Full email’s up on the screen… #TravisAlexander “what i want is for you to quit blatantly lying.” Fonseca asked why they stay together
Monica Lindstrom@monicalindstrom
DrF: He is erotically tied to he
@william_pitts
Fonseca says #TravisAlexander has misrepresented himself to his friends, the public, etc, but #JodiArias doesn’t have the experience
@william_pitts
#TravisAlexander “i hate you so much you have been more cause of pain than the death of my father”
@william_pitts
Nurmi asks if #TravisAlexander is really talking about himself. Martinez objects. We have a sidebar…
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. Fonseca: “the person who has misrepresented himself to the public is Mr. Alexander
@william_pitts
Nurmi’s trying to get Fonseca to say why she thinks #TravisAlexander was self-hating and taking it out on #JodiArias
@monicalindstrom
Just a week b4 the final tryst, TA says to #JodiArias” “you are sick and evil and knowing you makes me want to kill myself in punishment”
@william_pitts
Fonseca: #TravisAlexander has not owned his struggle in anything she’s read. But she infers from his actions
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “this is abusive behavior”.
@william_pitts
Fonseca says #JodiArias was making excuses for #TravisAlexander , as were his friends. Says he was abusive.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: #JodiArias blaming herself again, making excuses for TA because he is abusive n the relationship to her, he insults her, she apologizes
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. says #jodiarais is “target” of T.A.’s anger because she pleases him
@monicalindstrom
DrF: its also an unrequited love
@monicalindstrom
DrF: “He snuffed her out, her identity, it was almost like she was invisible”
@william_pitts
#TravisAlexander “yeah you are a 3 hole wonder you are good for something. i loved someone that never existed.”
@monicalindstrom
“yes you are a 3 hole wonder you are good for something” #JodiArias#Nurmi asks DrF-“what does this mean?”
@SKrafftFox10
Aaaand… we’re back to discussion of #jodiarias as a “three-hole wonder.” Expert explains it is mouth, anus and vagina. Unconventional sex.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. Fonseca tells court she has more than 30 years of dealing with “sexual deviance”
@jeffgoldesq
Travis says Jodi got into his computer to tamper with email
@jeffgoldesq
#JodiArias Travis accuses Jodi of slashing his tires
@william_pitts
#JodiArias “I may be a whore…but the one thing i am NOT is violent.”
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F continues to say, the terms that the sexual terms that TA called#jodiarias were dehumanizing, that JA was suffering in silence.
@CarolynSungCNN
#jodiarias responds, “… one thing I am not is violent” to the TA’s claims that she slashed his tires.
@jodiarias_gb
@CarolynSungCNN Would help #JodiArias defense if they can prove someone else slashed tires, showing Travis was paranoid and deluded.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: In 2008 TA makes references to killing himself and emails Hughes about it
@william_pitts
#TravisAlexander “I think i was little more than a dildo with a heartbeat to you.
@william_pitts
#JodiArias replies: “I would have been content just cuddling but i wasn’t strong enough”
@william_pitts
Fonseca again saying #TravisAlexander was “infectious” and not listening to #JodiArias , bringing it back to sex. The IM convo continues…
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says it doesn’t appear that #jodiarias used TA for sex, it was the other way around.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says #jodiarias was willing to be intimate with TA, but that’s not what he wanted.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. says #jodiarias loved Travis and that Travis loved having sex with Jod
@maryellenabc15
4am response from #JodiArias to #TravisAlexander: I was a Wh— bc the more I was a Wh— the more you wanted
@maryellenabc15
Fonseca says #JodiArias response to #TravisAlexander means she would sacrifice flesh to have him close
@maryellenabc15
#JodiArias: I don’t want to be a Wh— but if being a whore for#TravisAlexander is wrong she doesn’t want to be right
@michaelbkiefer
“There’s no excuse for me to be alive,” #JodiArias wrote. Fonseca calls her suicidal.
@monicalindstrom
This iMessage convo has a death theme throughout it from both #JodiAriasand TA
@william_pitts
“There’s no excuse for me to be alive. Fonseca says it’s like #JodiArias has lost hope.
@monicalindstrom
TA tells #JodiArias that she knows he will take her back regardless of what she does
@SKrafftFox10
“It was a vicious, horrible killing,” says Dr. Fonseca. Getting message out to jury before prosecutor can hammer it home
@michaelbkiefer
How does it go from sex to murder in four hours? Nurmi asks. Martinez objects. Sidebar. We all want to know that one.
@NancyGraceHLN
Witness says she believes #JodiArias was not psychologically equipped to handle someone like Travis.
@michaelbkiefer
That’s lunch time for the #JodiArias trial.
@CarolynSungCNN
#jodiarias seems to be in a good mood.
@RedTailspin
@CarolynSungCNN Glad 2 hear it. It’s amazing she’s suffered thru more than 6 years of solitary confinement “torture” and still can be happy.
@NancyGraceHLN
Jury brought in. Nurmi continues with Dr. Fonseca back on witness stand. “I just have a few more questions for you,” Nurmi says.
@SKrafftFox10
On day Jodi murdered Travis “something happened in that bathroom, I wasn’t there,” says Dr. Fonseca.
@william_pitts
Nurmi’s trying to wrap it all up as abuse. Martinez objecting EVERY question.
@SKrafftFox10
“Psychological vomit” happened in bathroom as #JodiArias killed Travis, says expert.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says what happened in the bathroom on June 4th was a “pyschological vomit” for
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. calls murder “pyschological vomit” on part of #jodiarais responding to T.A.’s emotional and verbal abuse
@michaelbkiefer
Back to the #JodiArias trial to hear Dr. Fonseca bring up unrequited love, which doesn’t always end in murder, “but this was different.”
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says #jodiarias loved TA, even on June 4th.
@michaelbkiefer
Nurmi asks if #JodiArias loved Alexander on the day she killed him. Fonseca says yes. Nurmi is done.
@SKrafftFox10
Dr. Fonseca says #JodiArias loved Travis Alexander on the day she killed him. And with that defense atty. sits down and it’s cross-x now.
End of Direct Examination
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi is done with Dr. Fonseca. Martinez starts w/ his cross-examination. Dr. F interrupts with a “Good Afternoon” Mr. Martinez.
@michaelbkiefer
Juan Martinez starts right out asking if Fonseca reviewed certain documents and he demands yes/no answers she doesn’t want to give.
@CarolynSungCNN
It’s on between Dr. F and Martinez. “Mr. Martinez, I would like to finish my response, please.”
@william_pitts
Martinez cutting her off in the middle of her answers. Judge telling him to let her finish.
@SKrafftFox10
Prosecutor Juan Martinez accuses Dr. Fonseca of not reviewing all materials in case and not knowing dates.
@SKrafftFox10
Dr. Fonseca, a seasoned expert witness, is going toe-to-toe with Prosecutor Martinez. Trench warfare in courtroom.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez brings up the phone sex call and asks if she knew the phone was reported stolen and if that was important. She is not sure.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “Mr Martinez, we’re goiing to go at it, but you’ll have to speak up I can’t hear you.”
@CarolynSungCNN
Sidebar. Witness doesn’t understand questions, or can’t hear questions. Martinez getting frustrated.
@william_pitts
Again, Martinez asks if reporting a cell phone stolen when it wasn’t stolen would be a lie. nurmi objects and back to sidebar
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez says it means she was lying. He won’t let her answer, asks again about it being stolen. Nurmi objects it’s privileged. Approach
@william_pitts
by the way up till now Fonseca has had no accent. Now she’s saying Martinez with a heavy Spanish accent. JM doesn’t sound pleased with it.
@maryellenabc15
#JuanMartinez brings up that #JodiArias expert Fonseca is being paid for her testimony. She says yes getting paid $275 an hour.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez brings up the fact that Fonseca charges for her testimony and she denies she is at the high end of the pay range. He presses her.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez: “You didn’t talk to anyone but the defendant…You didn’t talk to Travis Alexander, did you? He’s dead.”
@SKrafftFox10
“I get paid $275/hour to testify as expert,” says Dr. Fonseca. Attys. always try to make opposing expert witnesses look greedy
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez asks if she interviewed Alexander’s family. Nurmi objects, “…he should know the law.” Sustained.
@william_pitts
Martinez: “What’s you opinion about how #JodiArias reacted when her dad slapped her?”
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca says Martinez is mischaracterizing her testimony. He cuts her off again. Objections from both sides.
@maryellenabc15
#JuanMartinez asking if Fonseca said #JodiArias suffered in silence from abuse. Fonseca agrees.
@william_pitts
“Isn’t it true that when he slapped her #JodiArias said ‘f&*# you Bill?” challenging the “suffering in silence” claim.
@SKrafftFox10
Prosecutor Juan Martinez’ voice sounds a little strained today as he paces back and forth, firing questions at Dr. Fonseca
@maryellenabc15
#JuanMartinez asks Fonseca if when #JodiArias father slapped her she turned & aid “Fu– U” Bill -adds that’s not suffering in silenc
Michael Kiefer✔
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez shows Fonseca a document without passing it by defense. Nurmi objects and asks what it is. Judge sustains. Nurmi asks for sidebar.
@michaelbkiefer
“It’s a conversation with someone with the last name of Arias, right?” It has “privileged and confidential attorney product.”
@william_pitts
“You seem to be having problems with your memory” — Martinez
@william_pitts
that was after Fonseca confused Bill Arias (father) with Carl Arias (brother).
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F misidentifies #jodiarias brother as her father. Martinez retorts “You must be having problems with your memory”.
@william_pitts
Fonseca admits she never saw the two documents she’s looking at. Describing the “F&#$ you Bill exchange”.
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi: Objection, approaching the witness without asking Judge: Sustained. Martinez walks back and forth to Dr. F for questions
@michaelbkiefer
Ok, they have something to do with #JodiArias’ father Bill. Copies of the same doc, one of them redacted somehow.
@william_pitts
Wonder if they’re as lost as we are…Fonseca now being asked to count how many words there are.
@william_pitts
One apparently has “F___ Y___” and the other doesn’t. Martinez asks if it could stand for…what you think it stands for
@michaelbkiefer
Now we are referencing the “dildo with a heartbeat” comment. She is trying to figure out where he is pointing to on the document.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: It’s difficult to answer bc you’re mischaracterizing what I’m saying.” Judge tells her to answer
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca to Judge: “I just can’t answer that way.” Martinez: “Give me your answer again.” She asks to what
@william_pitts
#JodiArias glaring at Martinez from the table…
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez makes a remark about #JodiArias being “just in heat.” Nurmi asks to strike. Martinez repeats it. Objection. “Approach.” #???
@maryellenabc15
#JuanMartinez shows document & asks Fonseca if it would chge her opinion. Dr. F: never saw the doc but would need more 2 chg opinion
@william_pitts
the document is attorney work product and privileged. Fonseca says she doesn’t usually get those.
@maryellenabc15
#JuanMartinez asks if #JodiArias defense showed her doc. She says no but all information is helpful in forming opinion
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca sez Arias had long-term relationships. Martinez: Didn’t she go from one boyfriend to the next? F: “Again, you are mischaracterizing”
@maryellenabc15
#JodiArias expert says she never said JA went from one boyfriend 2the next #JuanMartinez goes 2show doc — bench conference
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez’ questions are hard to understand, about documents no one has seen. Seems mostly to be building the fluster factor at this point.
@michaelbkiefer
Fonseca is reviewing a document handed to her that she says she has never seen. Stephens gives her time
@monicalindstrom
When were you licensed? 1986 When did you get your degree? 1982
@william_pitts
Fonseca’s done reading it. She’s never seen it either
@monicalindstrom
JM points out to the jury that this doc was already in evid-email from#JodiArias to TA 2.14.07
@william_pitts
email is dated Valentine’s day, 2007
@michaelbkiefer
Here it comes, a Valentine’s Day email from Alexander to #JodiArias. Martinez says they had just started dating.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez says the email is from less than two weeks after they started dating. He points out a line that says Arias has a destructive anger
@monicalindstrom
#JodiArias admits “I’ve never beaten up anybody over it, but I’ve kicked holes in walls, kicked down doors, smashed windows, broken things”
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez asks Dr. if she can read minds as she sits there. #jodiarias Dr. F says, “I wish I could”
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez just asked Fonseca if she was some word she couldn’t understand. When she asked what he meant, he asked if she can read minds.
@william_pitts
Martinez asks about a line: you already know the Secret. Fonseca doesn’t know what #JodiArias meant right? Nurmi obects, sidebar.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez notes in the email that Arias refers to calling her ex boyfriend. Fonseca asks why not since it was to discuss their mortgage.
@william_pitts
Fonseca fights back saying Martinez could have given her whatever he wanted her to review before trial
@michaelbkiefer
“I wasn’t hired by the prosecutor,” Fonseca tells jury, and he didn’t give her the documents to look at, which is why she didn’t see it.
@michaelbkiefer
Martinez reads a text in which #JodiArias refers to waxing her youknowwhat, finding a schoolgirl outfit and her Spiderman underpants.
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez puts up text messages between #jodiarias and TA. says she’s preparing her school girl outfit and spiderman underwear.
@william_pitts
court’s adjourned till monday at 930. Fonseca has questions about the docs, Stephens says she can address it on Monday.
@michaelbkiefer
We are done for the day. The #JodiArias jury is to come back Monday. Tomorrow they argue about the disputed porn on Alexander’s computer.
Monday 24 November 2014
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: isn’t it important to you to remember when the relationship started? Dr. Fonseca #JodiArias was unclear herself
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca describing risk-assessment tool she uses for juveniles. Martinez saying neither #jodiarias or #TravisAlexander fell into category
@meganrcassidy
Martinez now displaying text messages btw #JodiArias and#TravisAlexander. Hammering Fonseca on her memory of times they took place
@meganrcassidy
Martinez asking why fonseca did not interview arias about photo of travis’ genitalia
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says she had lots of evidence in her possession that she didn’t necessarily interview arias abt
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said she highlighted photo because it demonstrated the struggle#TravisAlexander was having abt sexuality and religion
@meganrcassidy
Martinez says fonseca has lost objectivity by calling #TravisAlexanderpenis photo/ Mormon garb photo juxtaposition “distasteful”
@meganrcassidy
Martinez said same “juxtaposition” could be applied to Arias, who was also photographed in Mormon garb as well as naked
@meganrcassidy
Martinez said fonseca made a moral judgement of photos
@meganrcassidy
Um, not sure if I can tweet this stuff.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says Martinez is getting distracted by the sexual behavior and forgetting the dynamics of what’s going on
@KatieJConner
#JuanMartinez shows Dr. Fonseca text from #JodiArias to#TravisAlexander “I want you to get scandalous with me. I’m tired of the phone”
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez plays an excerpt from #JodiArias phone sex recording. JA has her head down and ears covered.
@meganrcassidy
Martinez is displaying text messages where it appears #JodiArias is the sexual aggressor
@KatieJConner
#JuanMartinez is using vulgar texts from #JodiArias to show how jurors#TravisAlexander didn’t pressure her for sex
@meganrcassidy
Martinez displayed text from #JodiArias, referring to herself as schoolgirl. He says it was jodi who first introduced the idea of youth
@meganrcassidy
In audio, #TravisAlexander says #JodiArias sounds like 12y/o girl. Was recorded after text jodi sent, referring to herself as schoolgirl
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca repeats: talking abt sex behavior is a distraction from the dynamics.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: dynamics are abt #TravisAlexander feeling guilty. “He knew full well that he was outside of what he should have been doing”
@meganrcassidy
#JodiArias alleged that #TravisAlexander viewed child porn on jan21, but on jan24, wrote in journal “nothing noteworthy to report”
@meganrcassidy
Martinez asking whether #JodiArias going and kissing another man after murder was an indication of love for #TravisAlexander
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said that was an example of the toxicity of the relationship btw#TravisAlexander and #JodiArias
@meganrcassidy
Martinez asking Dr. Fonseca abt #JodiArias exchanging numbers w a guy at #TravisAlexander memorial service
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said the number exchange was innocuous
@meganrcassidy
Martinez asking why Fonseca didn’t clarify whether #jodiarias alleged Travis was looking at computer child porn or hard copy
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said whether allegation was of comp image or photo wasn’t impt to her review.
@meganrcassidy
Martinez showing Jodi’s journal entries. There’s a time lapse btw jan20, 2008 and jan24 2008.
@meganrcassidy
On Jan 24, #JodiArias reports in journal that there’s been nothing noteworthy to report.
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: “If we are to believe the defendant, that means she is even lying to herself in this journal.”
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says people don’t always write everything in their journals
@monicalindstrom
DrF has expressed several times that she has not called TA a pedophile
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F “I never said Mr. Alexander is actively seeking children.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. Fonseca confirms (again) that everything she reviewed was provided by defense and JM did not provide her w/ any documents
@monicalindstrom
JM telling DrF things about #JodiArias and asking her if she knew about them – pointing out DrF doesn’t know everything about her
@courtpio
State v Jodi Arias: Trial has wrapped up for the day and will resume tomorrow morning at 9:45am.
@CarolynSungCNN
Courtroom emptying out. #JodiArias in deep conversation with Nurmi
@CarolynSungCNN
Judge SS calls evening recess as Dr. F continues to review documents pertaining to trial. Back tom am at 11:45am
@mikewatkiss3tv
Law schools should use the #JodiArias case as a textbook lesson on how not to conduct a tria
Tuesday 25 November 2014
@william_pitts
Martinez questioning about Fonseca’s evaluation of relationship and sexual practices
@SKrafftFox10
Discussion of Jodi’s genital waxing kicks off today’s session at #jodiariastrial.
@SKrafftFox10
Prosecutor Juan Martinez asking if Jodi shaved pubic area before meeting Travis Alexander
@william_pitts
Martinez: #JodiArias wasn’t suffering in silence with an ex that was cheating on her. She confronted the woman, right? F: Yes.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca was asked to read document she hadn’t seen before. #JodiAriasreportedly drove to confront ex-bf’s new girlfriend.
@SKrafftFox10
In cross-x prosecutor says #jodiarias confronted woman who had sex with Jodi’s previous boyfriend. Theme: Jodi had history of aggression
@william_pitts
Fonseca: confrontation is indicative of assertiveness, not aggression.
@william_pitts
Fonseca says she didn’t examine relationship between #JodiArias and her ex. Just #TravisAlexander
@william_pitts
Fonseca’s trying to pin her “suffering in silence” remark to#TravisAlexander and no one else. Specific to TA and no one else.
@william_pitts
Martinez: so her suffering in silence skipped over all other relationships and just popped up with #TravisAlexander ?
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says, she’s not saying #JodiArias suffering in silence necessarily skipped over other relationships but was more prominent with TA
@william_pitts
Fonseca didn’t see all 18 days of #JodiArias testimony. For a death penalty case I’d watch everything if I was being paid by that side…
@william_pitts
Fonseca doesn’t remember anything about #JodiArias going to confront Juarez after he cheated
@SKrafftFox10
Prosecutor doing his best to make defense expert Dr. Fonseca look like she has hazy understanding of #jodiarias relationships before Travis
@william_pitts
Fonseca says shes going off of what she was told, docs, transcripts, etc.
@william_pitts
Nurmi got one sustained. Martinez says because #JodiArias is a liar Fonseca didn’t believe the date she gave? objection and struck
@SKrafftFox10
Dr. Fonseca counters she concentrated on #jodiarias-Travis relationship more than her past relationships.
@william_pitts
Talking about #TravisAlexander taking down pics of him and #JodiAriasMartinez says maybe he just didn’t like them
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez to Dr. F. “You weren’t there so you can’t tell us what happened.. weren’t there to listen to convos that took place.
@CarolynSungCNN
This basis of this argument between Dr. F and Martinez stems from Dr. F’s opinion that TA tried to closet his relationship with #JodiArias
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca defending assertion that #TravisAlexander “closeted” #JodiArias.
@RedTailspin
@meganrcassidy Travis’s friends said the same thing although not as elegantly.
@william_pitts
Relationship doesn’t matter to JM, this is about getting jury to question whether Fonseca knows what she’s talking about
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said #JodiArias went through #travisalexander’s phone to validate suspicions that he was seeing other women
@justice4jodiann
Dr F says that #JodiArias broke up with Alexander on June 29 2007. Juan asks if she wanted to break up weeks before, Fonseca doesn’t know
@william_pitts
Focusing on “suffering in silence” bc it bears on the sentencing decision. No suffering = no sympathy
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: “She didn’t just suffer in silence, did she?”
@meganrcassidy
Martinez saying #JodiArias decided to stay w #travisalexander after knowing he was seeing other women, bc she wanted to go on vacation
@william_pitts
Martinnez was starting to question about why #JodiArias went on all these vacations with #TravisAlexander if she didn’t like him. Q about NM
@meganrcassidy
Martinez still contesting Fonseca’s assertion that #JodiArias suffered in silence. She moved to Mesa, spied on him kissing other woman
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca denies #JodiArias was “peeping,” she came over to pick something up from TA
@william_pitts
Fonseca doesn’t remember if #JodiArias had the code. Martinez says we heard it in a tape, so does she not believe #JodiArias ?
@william_pitts
Fonseca: She had her things in the house so she had access to the house.
@meganrcassidy
Martinez sticking on this “peeping” thing. Says #JodiArias could have just used the code to get through garage
@william_pitts
Fonseca: i wasn’t there i don’t know how she could have gotten in.
@william_pitts
#JodiArias told Fonseca she was in the backyard and saw through the sliding glass door
@william_pitts
Fonseca agrees she went to the backyard intentionally. Martinez: “that’s not suffering in silence is it?”
@william_pitts
#JodiArias saw kissing right? Yes. And she saw this woman’s bra was off right? Yes.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: It’s confusing in the use of terms, isn’t it? People who have terminated a relationship don’t have contact
@william_pitts
Martinez keeps asking a question while the judge is talking, Fonseca can’t keep track of who’s talking to who.
@william_pitts
“People may break up and continue to have sex for years if that works for them right?” — Martinez
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: When people separate and continue contact, that’s what’s confusing. #JodiArias “There was some togetherness, if you will”
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez: #JodiArias and TA broke up on June 29, 2007. JA testified. Dr. Fonseca says it’s confusing b/c they still had contact.
@william_pitts
Nurmi objects, gets it struck, Martinez asks the same question again with a word or two different and it’s overruled.
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: Why do you have a problem with accepting June 29, 2007? (As date of breakup)
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says it’s not that she doesn’t believe it, but she says it’s b/c she was given another date from #JodiArias
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: “What you’re saying is that you want him to kiss and tell, right?” Fonseca: That’s mischaracterization
@PitchforksPosts
#JuanMartinez saying #JodiArias stayed w #TravisAlexander bc wanted vacation reeks of desperation, so idiotic! Hilarious motive change!!
@william_pitts
Martinez: doesn’t #JodiaArias have something to lose by telling ppl she was having sex?
@william_pitts
Doesn’t she have something to lose in terms of the Mormon church?#JodiaArias Fonseca: yes.
@william_pitts
Fonsecca: Yes and that’s why #TravisAlexander had more to lose, bc he’s a priest holder.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: TA was tied to the church for years, was more invested in it than#JodiArias was
@william_pitts
Martinez: where does it say in LDS doctrine that the newly converted don’t have as much to lose?
@william_pitts
Fonseca; That mischaracterizes my statement.
@william_pitts
lunch break. Fonseca ends it on clarifying that LDS religion meant more to TA bc he’d been raised in church his whole life
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez puts up a google chat between TA and #JodiArias. He says she described it as a 5 hour rant in testimony with defense.
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez displays and says it was a 2hr & 15 min conversation.
@william_pitts
That gmail chat between #JodiaArias and #TravisAlexander is up on the big screen, where he says she’s a solid form of evil.
SKrafftFox10
Prosecutor asks Dr. Fonseca re: hidden relationship: if Travis was a “master of deception,” isn’t Jodi a “mistress of deception” too?
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez is getting ready to play exhibit 757 – testimony from Dan Freeman’s cross-examination from first trial
@william_pitts
Freeman did not know #JodiArias was having oral sex with#TravisAlexander at the time of her baptism.
@meganrcassidy
Video of Freeman from trial: Freeman says #JodiArias would confide in him with “some things yes, some things no”
@meganrcassidy
Trial video: Freeman now talking about how #JodiArias got upset that Freeman emptied her backpack of 10-15 lbs of beauty supplies
@william_pitts
Freeman recounting the story of the fight before the trip to Havasupai. Fight was over what #JodiArias packed.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Martinez says Jodi Arias “gave as good as she got” in arguments with TA
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: There was an indication that TA asked Freeman to go along for a purpose, right? Fonseca: Ye
@william_pitts
Martinez asking why she’s not here to “diagnose”
@william_pitts
Fonseca says she wasn’t hired to give a psychological assessment of#JodiArias . Also she’s not licensed in AZ
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F reminds us again, she’s not here to provide a psychological assessment of TA or #JodiArias,
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez reads the testimony where Dr. F says TA was distressed enough to be suicida
@meganrcassidy
Martinez criticizing Fonseca for her “diagnosis” that TA was depressed, talking of suicide
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F confirms w/ Martinez that she used the word, “Assessment” but she wasn’t making a diagnosis, She made a conclusion about what TA said.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says she is not making a diagnosis, making an observation about how things were escalating with TA
@meganrcassidy
Martinez just finished questioning. Very unceremonious.
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez is done with cross-examination. Judge calls 10-min afternoon recess. #JodiArias trial will be done at 3:45pm today.
@occupyhln
“When prosecutors cheat, one of two things happen. Innocent ppl go to prison, even death row. And guilty ppl go free” ~ Michael Kiefer
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi continues w/ the questioning of Dr. Fonseca’s ethics. She says she’s never had any violations w/ her license
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said her expertise comes from decades of work and research on unconventional sexual behavior.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: When TA describes himself as “sociopath” and Fonseca mentions it, she is not making diagnosis, she’s quoting him.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says people with sexual perversions aren’t lining up to be studied.
@william_pitts
Fonseca wants specifics on how someone would not be objective. Says she didn’t hear that from Martinez.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Did you hear a valid basis to question your objectivity? Fonseca: No, it was used to imply that I lacked objectivity
@william_pitts
Nurmi: Do you believe that anything to the contrary would be complete hogwash fabricated by the state?” Objection.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: It would discourage anyone from coming forward if they’re just going to be besmirched.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: It’s outrageous to besmirch the reputation of a professional. It would dissuade people from coming forward to testify.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca says it’s “outrageous” that someone (cough JM) would try to besmirch the reputation of a doc without any basis
@william_pitts
Nurmi: The implication that you had to witness everything to talk about it, did that make sense to you? F: n
@monicalindstrom
DrF: “I didn’t go through every single piece of paper in those 31 boxes…I tried to look at as many observable/objective items”
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca, several times, said the sex in this case was a distraction. Nurmi asked her to explain that to the jury
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “media sells, it distracts the jury.” and i felt like we were going down that road. Says sexual behavior is not what she looked at
@william_pitts
Fonseca says that’s not the relationship, that’s sex
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says looking at sexual behaviors of #JodiArias and TA are like any other couple. She focused on dynamics of relationship
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F says listening to #jodiarias on phone sex recording doesn’t give you anything on dynamics of relationship. It’s a distracter.
@monicalindstrom
I think DrF just said 3-4 times that it is not about listening to #JodiArias have an orgasm or TA’s like of anal sex
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi asks Dr. F to describe what she meant by the term “Slime-Alley” she used when Martinez was questioning her.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: The implication that she is unethical is “slimy.” In her years as expert she’s “never seen anything like it.”
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: They both enjoyed the sexual interaction they had w one another, no one is denying that
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: A response to the misinterpretation of why she’s here, JM calling her unethical. Never experienced this in 30+ years.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: For #JodiArias, the sex with TA was about being a “whore.” For TA, it was just about his sexuality
@william_pitts
Nurmi asks Fonseca for the definition of misogyny
@william_pitts
out of sidebar and we’re adjourning for the day. We’re back on Tuesday, not Monday. Judge wishes everyone a happy thanksgiving.
@CarolynSungCNN
#jodiarias and team still in courtroom. JA is smiling and speaking to Nurmi, holding a stack of papers.
End November 25 Testimony
Tuesday 2 December 2014
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Are you here to say Mr. Alexander deserved what he got? Another objection. Another sidebar.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Are you here in any way to say that Mr. Alexander was a horrible, monstrous person? Fonseca: Absolutely not.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi:…Based on your analysis of the relationship…are you in any way here to say TA deserved it? Fonseca: Absolutely no
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi’s bringing up the infamous Gchat. Martinez had criticized Fonseca for characterizing TA’s rant as longer than it was.
@william_pitts
Nurmi tries to admit something to evidence. Martinez objects on relevance. Judge says come on up …
KatieJConner
Nurmi showing a conversation to Dr. Fonseca between #JodiArias and#TravisAlexander May 26, 2008 — just before 10 p.m
@william_pitts
exhibit admitted. back from sidebar
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi is comparing the times on ex 741 and 758 “Looks like a lot longer than 2 hours huh?” says Dr. F
@monicalindstrom
DrF: “A 6 hour rant Mr. Alexander had with Ms. Arias”
@william_pitts
Nurmi examining transcripts. Attackinng Martinez’s statement that the convo was not 5 hours. Dr. F now says it was 6 hours based on this.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi’s now showing new messages that he’s tacking onto the earlier rant. Fonseca now correcting herself–it was actually a 6-hour rant.
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F goes over how in this 6 hour period both parties talked about killing themselves.
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F hold ex 440, a 100+ page collection of messages between #JodiAriasand TA. Juan jects “beyond the scope” eeeannnd they proach.
@gypsygyrl_99
@dth92081 @jeffgoldesq @courtchatter @thegoldpatrol yes I do believe he did watch child porn
@monicalindstrom
#JodiArias slides over and starts talking to #Nurmi during the break, you don’t see that very often
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi continues, showing the text messages from 440. Juan objects, says it wasn’t entered in. She asks if he has a prob. Says no.
@william_pitts
Dr. F reading a text from #TravisAlexander to #JodiArias . “your pic comment…makes you look like a pure whore.”
@william_pitts
“i have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone. but why do i even say it because you don’t care. it doesn’t serve your evilness.
@william_pitts
According to Dr. F that goes with the pattern of #TravisAlexander”debasing” #JodiArias and Arias going alog with it.
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F uses these txt messages to link the “rant” into a 6 hour rant. 6 hours is a lonnnng time to rant she explains.
@monicalindstrom
From his TMs to #JodiArias, it is very clear that TA felt genuine emotions for her, his anger is clear and you only have that when u cared
@CarolynSungCNN
Nurmi submits into evidence: text message correspondence between#jodiarias and TA.
@william_pitts
Dr F says most people rant for an hour or two. Not 6
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi is linking text messages btw #jodiarias and TA to the gchat. Fonseca said the convos are interwoven. “Six hours is a long time”
@SKrafftFox10
Dr. Fonseca once again says she is not trying to make Travis Alexander look bad, just to put relationship w/#jodiarias in perspective.
@KatieJConner
Message from #TravisAlexander to #JodiArias: “…I have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone….”
@KatieJConner
Message continued….”But why do I even say it because you don’t care. It doesn’t serve your evilness.” From #TravisAlexander to #JodiArias
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: “I didn’t come here to make anybody look good or look bad. I’m here to look at the dynamics of the relationship.”
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi asked why to explore TA’s sexual proclivities at all? Fonseca: BC it speaks to the dynamic btw TA and #jodiarias
@WildAboutTrial
We have heard whore, slut, 3 hole wonder says Nurmi as he points at#JodiArias. Dr. F adds in “carcass”.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: With someone with experienced knowledge that you have, what do (TA’s) words mean to you, in terms of your analysis?
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: “There was a mastery of deception here. People did not know this about Mr. Alexander.”
@monicalindstrom
DrF is explaining why she had to talk about the “sex proclivities” of this r’ship in order to explain the dynamics
@WildAboutTrial
TA talks in the third person all the time. It was a way for him to manage his two sides says Dr. F.
@KatieJConner
Dr. Fonseca: “People did not know this about #TravisAlexander” (in regards to his sexuality). He was vulgar
@monicalindstrom
DrF: We don’t usually wear t-shirts that say “this is who I am making love to _____” that info is private
@monicalindstrom
Diff situation than this, you do not harbor that anger and it doesn’t likely resurface more than that one tim
@KatieJConner
Dr. Fonseca: The more people found out about #TravisAlexander and#JodiArias relationship the more distressed Travis became
@monicalindstrom
Opposite of love isnt hate, it is indifference. Passionate hate and anger often comes from a place that passionate love occupies
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi asking abt Martinez indicating that #jodiarias kept relationship w TA a secret too. Fonseca says JA initially wanted to discuss
@meganrcassidy
Martinez criticized Fonseca for not knowing date when #jodiarias and TA started dating. Fonseca said TA didn’t want to officiate
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: As TA became more involved w #jodiarias, it created more internal conflict for him
@KatieJConner
Nurmi: The majority of their relationship #JodiArias was in the closet
@WildAboutTrial
Dr F: As TA became more satisfied with #JodiArias it created more conflict for him because he knew he was violating the terms of the church
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: #jodiarias wanted to make relationship w TA open. But she was aware that TA wanted to keep it secret, so followed lead.
@william_pitts
Nurmi showing an email fromm #JodiArias to #TravisAlexander fro Feb 2008. Dr F reading the whole ething…
@william_pitts
Email starts with #JodiArias saying she didn’t get credit for helping out a#TravisAlexander blog post.
@monicalindstrom
DrF reading #jodiarias’ words to the jury about her upset TA doesn’t recognize her with his friends
@CarolynSungCNN
#jodiarias writes she has no shame of being TA’s friend. She says she would broadcast it nationwide.
@meganrcassidy
#jodiarias email: It’s so simple to please me…it’s the little things that make my entire day.”
@SKrafftFox10
#jodiarias was abused psychologically and physically growing up in remote Northern California, Dr. Fonseca says
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca saying #jodiarias has been described as having lots of boyfriends, said that’s not true. Only 4 bfs since she was 15.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said #jodiarias isn’t someone who can’t function without a bf. She went long periods without one.
@monicalindstrom
I find the legal issues in this trial fascinating (and yes, very very sad) and if my eyes are glazing over I worry about the jury
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said with #jodiarias’s ex-bfs, there was this whole other life. With TA, relationship energy was only into sex life.
@william_pitts
Nurmi’s done. Martinez back up again. Let’s see if he rehashes everything too
@william_pitts
Martinez is asking about Greenwich Mean Time. And if the text log is in GMT or AZ time
@monicalindstrom
JM yelling at DrF about greenich time or AZ time (yes, he raised his voice VERY LOUD)
@william_pitts
Fonseca says she doesn’t know if it’s GMT or AZ.
@WildAboutTrial
Juan calls it “Greenwich medium time” but I think it’s Greenwich Means Time no? He is asking Dr. F if she is familiar with it.
@meganrcassidy
Is it a 5-hour rant or a 2-hour rant? The world may never know.
@monicalindstrom
AZ doesn’t have re-cross as a matter of right but Judges will allow it if someone asks and has a good reason
@william_pitts
Fonseca now just answering with “same response your honor.” Nurmi objects over mischaracterizing the evidence. Continually overruled.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca to Martinez: You misrepresent testimony and data. She needs to check up on him every step of the way
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F admits she sees her name now, and that it was her that said it but it was taken out of context
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said she didn’t know whether a particular snippet of TA and#jodiarias messaging was at beginning, middle or end.
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez has no more questions. Nurmi back up
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi is imitating Martinez: “Did you say THIS, Did you say THIS?” Fonseca giggles.
@william_pitts
every time Nurmi says “whore slut, 3-hole-wonder” he yells it.
@SKrafftFox10
“whore/slut/three-hole-wonder” phrase used repeatedly by both defense attorney and Dr. Fonseca.
@KatieJConner
Next up….juror questions but first another sideba
@WildAboutTrial
Jury enters Q: Was sex with Ms. Reed similar to sex with #JodiArias? Answer: No, Arias more exploratory.
@meganrcassidy
Juror question: Were TA’s other relationships as sexually charged?#jodiarias Fonseca: No
@william_pitts
Is it your opinion that the Hughes’s opinion of the relationship could have changed since it was 4 months into relationship?
@william_pitts
It’s possible but they knew less about it as the relationship went on.
@william_pitts
Do you think the talk of death and suicide could be manipulation by either side?
@william_pitts
It could be but Dr F doesn’t think either party was consciously aware of it.
@SKrafftFox10
jury question: if #jodiarias saw Travis Alexander looking at child porn would it change their relationship? Expert: yes.
@william_pitts
yes, if the allegations were to stand **objection** — it would change. It’s like finding your husband cross-dressing.
@meganrcassidy
Juror: If someone catches partner viewing porn of nature that is alleged, does that change dynamics of relationship? Fon: yes
@meganrcassidy
Juror: Was TA ever open about anyone else on social media? Fonseca: Didn’t know
@SKrafftFox10
jury question: did Travis ask #jodiarias to keep relationship private or was it just understood. Expert: he asked her to keep a lid on it.
@WildAboutTrial
Were images of #JodiArias & TA ever kept up online on TA’s social media? Dr. says not to her knowledge.
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi up. Displaying email from #JodiArias to TA on May 26th 08. Jury wants to piece together argument. What came first, gmail rant email?
@SKrafftFox10
Jury questions to Dr. Fonseca suggest jurors accept her expertise; are genuinely interested in dynamics of #jodiarias/Travis relationship
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi asking Dr. F about Reid’s sexual relationship with TA and how honest Reid has been regarding their relationship.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi expanding on juror question that asked Fonseca to compare sexual relationship w/ TA and #jodiarias, and TA and Ms. Reed
@mikewatkiss3tv
Only a handful of juror questions for Dr. Fonseca-none assailing her credibility-all about relationship of TA&JA
@william_pitts
missed a question about whether Dr F thought it was unfair to have to do Internet research. She said yes.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said Reed’s reporting was “inconsistent.”
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. & Nurmi discuss Reid lying during an interview with Defense team. Reid implied that there was not a sexual relationship
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: Reed, in interviews, said TA had not had sex w anyone but#jodiarias. But in ct, she indicated she & TA had sex
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F explains that Reid did not want to continue with a sexual relationship w/TA. Wanted marriage or was moving on
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: TA and #jodiarias’s sexual relationship was more “involved” and “exploratory” than TA’s sex w/ Ms. Reed
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F explains that #JodiArias & TA’s relationship was “more sexually involved” than Reid’s. F calls it an “Erotic Bomb.”
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: What element does that (sexual) charge add to that relationship? Fonseca: “It’s an erotic bond… it’s powerful.”
@SKrafftFox10
If you’ve had the opportunity to experience orgasm you understand the bond between #jodiarias and Travis Alexander, says Dr. Fonseca.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: TA called #jodiarias a “whore” and “skank” very early in relationship. He didn’t see her as a whole person.
@william_pitts
another sidebar. Dr F was answering…again…about how shocked ppl were the #TravisAlexander was having sex.
@SKrafftFox10
Travis was interested in lust not love, Dr. Fonseca says for what must be the 117th time
@mikewatkiss3tv
TA and JA had “erotic bond” according to Dr. Fonseca
@WildAboutTrial
Somehow this has transitioned in to TA calling #JodiArias a whore and a prostitute. Dr.F says he was not joking. He meant those words.
@WildAboutTrial
Nurmi asks if there is any evidence of TA calling Reid a whore or soulless – Dr. F answers No
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Are you aware of any evidence that relates to Reed being closeted by Mr. Alexander? Martinez: Objection, beyond scope
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Is there any indication that Ms. Reed was closeted? Fonseca: No. People were quite aware of who she was.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: We know that TA wasn’t a “30-y/o virgin” … Not bc of #jodiarias, but because, at least, of Ms. Reed.
@william_pitts
Martinez’s objection overruled. Fonseca says “thank you your honor”
@WildAboutTrial
Dr F tells Jury she doesn’t think #JodiArias giggles when TA says “12yo girl orgasm.” “She sounds surprised.”
@william_pitts
Nurmi asking about “personal grooming” and “12yo girl orgasm” — Fonseca says she thinks #JodiArias is surprised, not giggling.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Re #jodiarias giggling after TA said she sounds like a 12-y/o, was that before or after she allegedly caught TA viewing child porn?
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: It was after
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F goes above & beyond answering questions to make damning statements about TA.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said she doesn’t think #jodiarias was happy about the “12 y/o girl” comment, she was surprised.
@william_pitts
Nurmi’s going back to the child porn allegations. Back to when #JodiAriasallegedly vomited after catching TA.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: Since #jodiarias discovered TA with the alleged child porn, would a partner typically try to compensate, or accept? Fonseca: yes
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: After Jan, do we see evidence of this compensation in text messages and emails? Fonseca: Ye
@WildAboutTrial
I missed the part where one of #JodiArias’ mitigating factors was Travis sucking…
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca said she’s not sure if #jodiarias was aware of TA’s suicide talk.
@WildAboutTrial
Dr. F explains that the suicidal threats and thoughts – discussed by both of them – rarely if ever were discussed between them
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: TA and #jodiarias were both stressed and in despair for different reasons.
@LarryLegends
Seems like about everyone associated with Travis has lied. Even the prosecutor and law enforcement representing him.
@WildAboutTrial
Dr says #JodiArias had a lot of secrets on Travis Alexanders – Money troubles, dating multiple women..
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: #JodiArias was a confidant to TA…that might have fueled his anger toward her. Martinez: Objection, speculation
@WildAboutTrial
Dr says if #JodiArias wanted to ruin him she could have done it sooner through those secrets.
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: #JodiArias had another view of TA’s private life
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr. Fonseca says #jodiarias was confidante of TA’s financial distress& that may have fueled “his anger
@william_pitts
Nurmi finally says the words “dirty little secret”. Martinez objects. Nurmi rephrases to “closeted whore” Interesting choice of words.
@meganrcassidy
Nurmi: What effect did being TA’s “dirty little secret” have on #jodiarias
@meganrcassidy
After objection, Nurmi rephrased to “closeted whore,” added emphasis
@justice4jodiann
Nurmi & Fonseca close on “#JodiArias knew she needed to get away” from Alexander, & that’s why she left Mesa. Martinez jumps out of seat.
@william_pitts
Martinez…back up. Fonseca’s back to the I can’t give a yes or no.
@CarolynSungCNN
Martinez asks Dr. F how the state is mis-characterizing her statements.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F “I did not say any of the things you stated, so far.”
@meganrcassidy
Now Fonseca is just talking to Stephens. She’s refusing to answer Martinez’s questions. Says he’s mischaracterizing he
@william_pitts
F: “you can continue asking it in your badgering way, but i don’t think it’s going to make me remember any more.”
@meganrcassidy
Fonseca: “You can continue asking me that, in the badgering way that you’re asking me…” but answer is not going to change
@WildAboutTrial
“Penis inside Vagina, How many times did they have that kind of intercourse?” Juan 2 Dr. re: Reid. Dr: Arms up, “I wasn’t there.
@william_pitts
JM: “So how many times did she say she had sex with #Travis Alexander?” F: “I don’t know.”
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “You’re changing my testimony, mr martinez, apparently this is the only game in your playbook.
@monicalindstrom
DrF to JM: “You are misrepresenting me, Apparently this is the only game in your play book.
@SKrafftFox10
“This is the only play in your playbook,” Dr. Fonseca says to Juan Martinez, dissing prosecutor’s relentlessly aggressive style.
@mikewatkiss3tv
Dr Fonseca tells Martinez “this is only play in your play book” & accusing him of misrepresenting
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F to Martinez: “Again, you’re mis-characterizing what I said, you’re very good at that.
@WildAboutTrial
Juan asking Dr. about TA w/photo of a minor. Dr. repeats, “this is what#JodiArias alleges.”
@meganrcassidy
Martinez: #jodiarias alleged that she caught TA viewing child porn of a young boy, not girl, right? Fonseca: Right
@troyhaydenfox10
Travis Alexander’s two sisters just went back into chambers and current witness Fonseca just grabbed her briefcase and left.
@SKrafftFox10
juror 3 has been excused. 16 remain on #jodiarias jury. 12 will be selected to decide case.
@Samadian
@RedTailspin @monicalindstrom There is quite the long list of reporters willing to ignore a prosecutor deleting evidence of child porn.
@william_pitts
Martinez: Wasn’t TA kidding about suicide in that email? Fonseca: I don’t think he was kiddiing, it didn’t sound that way.
@william_pitts
Fonseca: “I didn’t percieve it as joking, the people who responded took it seriously as well.”
@william_pitts
Dr F: he had indicated on several occassions that he was suicidal and that he had messed up his life. JM: and you took that seriously?
@SKrafftFox10
Dr. Fonseca is schooling prosecutor Martinez, won’t answer him, getting away with long speeches of her own
@william_pitts
Dr F now criticizing Martinez: “This is the badgering and the slime highway I was talking about”.
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: I don’t think I have hearing problems, I think Mr. Martinez is having memory problems.
@monicalindstrom
DrF: I don’t have hearing problems but JM might have memory problems#slimehighway
@CarolynSungCNN
Dr. F: This is the badgering and the slime highway, I’m talking about.
@LarryLegends
@monicalindstrom I’m glad to finially see someone to stand up to Juan. I think it’s great!
End of Dr Fonseca Testimony